WD Live Plus M2TS Plays on Some


#1

I have a PAnasonic HD camcorder that produces M2TS files.  For some reason, videos I took several months ago work fine, however, newer ones show that WDLTV does not support file format?  I ve tried test videos at different resolutions and still the same.  The videos that do work all show the m2ts file format, as do the newer ones that don t work.  I ve even copied to dvd to see if that process generates files that would be compatible with wdtv but this doesn’t seem to do anything either (the dvd oviously works).  Any ideas?  This is quite frustrating as this was the primary reason I purchased the wdtv


#2

Post a MediaInfo output for a WORKING and NONWORKING file.  That’ll help us determine what changed.


#3

Sorry, I m not sure what you mean or where to find this info?


#4

Media Info


#5

Thanks.  Here are the readouts:

Non working

eneral
ID                               : 1
Complete name                    : C:\Users\Jon\Videos\HDWRITER\06-29-2010\20100629_194132.m2ts
Format                           : BDAV
Format/Info                      : Blu-ray Video
File size                        : 25.3 MiB
Duration                         : 25s 304ms
Overall bit rate                 : 8 387 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate         : 18.0 Mbps

Video
ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP             : M=1, N=30
Duration                         : 24s 891ms
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 7 788 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 16.8 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.125
Stream size                      : 23.1 MiB (91%)

Audio
ID                               : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Duration                         : 25s 24ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -67ms
Stream size                      : 782 KiB (3%)

Text
ID                               : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : PGS
Duration                         : 24s 460ms
Video delay                      : -67ms

Working

General
ID                               : 1
Complete name                    : C:\Users\Jon\Videos\HDWRITER\3-2010 Sleepover\20100322_193627.m2ts
Format                           : BDAV
Format/Info                      : Blu-ray Video
File size                        : 139 MiB
Duration                         : 1mn 12s
Overall bit rate                 : 16.0 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate         : 18.0 Mbps

Video
ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP             : M=1, N=30
Duration                         : 1mn 12s
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 15.1 Mbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 16.8 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.244
Stream size                      : 131 MiB (94%)

Audio
ID                               : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Duration                         : 1mn 12s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -67ms
Stream size                      : 2.21 MiB (2%)

Text
ID                               : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : PGS
Duration                         : 1mn 12s
Video delay                      : -67ms


#6

Ok, they’re constructed identically… (no surprise, they came from the same source.)

I don’t see any practical differences at all, really.

What symptoms do you get?  What do you mean by “Non working?”  Error messages?   


#7

When i try to play the “non working” file(s), it goes to the playback screen and says “unable to play selected file, please check manual for a list of supported file formats”


#8

Can you post a link to a (short) example file that doesn’t play for you?


#9

JonS-CT wrote:

I have a PAnasonic HD camcorder that produces M2TS files.  For some reason, videos I took several months ago work fine, however, newer ones show that WDLTV does not support file format?  I ve tried test videos at different resolutions and still the same.  The videos that do work all show the m2ts file format, as do the newer ones that don t work.  I ve even copied to dvd to see if that process generates files that would be compatible with wdtv but this doesn’t seem to do anything either (the dvd oviously works).  Any ideas?  This is quite frustrating as this was the primary reason I purchased the wdtv

Are these files directly copied from the camcorder to the hard disc?

Has anything changed with regard to the camcorder - firmware etc?

When you say that you copied to a DVD what does that mean - copied files directly to a DVD still as M2TS or to DVD format VOBS?

What is the model of the Panasonic Camcorder?


#10

The camcorder is a Panasonic hdc-tm10.  I copy from the camcdr to my hardrive though HDWriter, the provvided software.  The DVD is made from the pc using HDWriter to do the encoding.  I believe the firmware has not changed.


#11

I have a similar problem, I can watch a few seconds the movie and then start playing slowly without sound.

Whith the last firmware I hadn’t any problem with those files.

I have a Panasonic HDC-TM300

This is the info of the file.

General
ID                               : 0
Complete name                    : USA 2010.m2ts
Format                           : MPEG-TS
File size                        : 4.37 GiB
Duration                         : 37mn 30s
Overall bit rate                 : 16.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate         : 40.0 Mbps

Video
ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
Duration                         : 37mn 30s
Bit rate                         : 15.1 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.242
Stream size                      : 3.94 GiB (90%)

Audio
ID                               : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Duration                         : 37mn 30s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : 15ms
Stream size                      : 120 MiB (3%)


#12

That’s about the highest bitrate file I’ve ever seen.  I’m surprised it worked well on the prior release… 

And, it’s INTERLACED to boot.  That’s weird stuff.


#13

Well, I forget to tell you that I edited the movie with Power Director. But with the old firmware I could play it.


#14

why not go back to the old firmware?  Maybe that would work for me too though most files seem to work while others just state to check the WDTV manual for supported files.  How can I get the previous firmware version?  I don’t seem to have a disc for it.   This is very very frustrating