Well, for the same reason, if the movie has ONLY AC3 5.1, your TV must support full DD5.1 decoding. If it does not, then yes, that’s normal.
And I have no idea why HDMI setting would affect the network connection…
I got the HDMI connection working, but it didn’t change anything.
A TV in 2010 cannot decode 5,1 audio? That seems crazy. A $30 DVD player can do it, literally:
why wouldn’t a $1000 TV?
rbico wrote:
why wouldn’t a $1000 TV?
If the TV only has 2 speakers there’s very little reason to be sending it a 5.1 signal and expecting it to downmix to stereo. Most people wanting 5.1 will send the 5.1 to a home theater receiver, and not use the TV speakers at all. Anybody expecting stereo sound through the 2 speakers would presumably be only sending it a stereo stream, not a 5.1 stream that needs to be decoded and downmixed – especially when the players outputting to the TV can do the downmixing.
rbico wrote:
I got the HDMI connection working, but it didn’t change anything.
A TV in 2010 cannot decode 5,1 audio? That seems crazy. A $30 DVD player can do it, literally:
why wouldn’t a $1000 TV?
It wasn’t SUPPOSED to change anything. It was only to EXAMINE what the TV is supposed to do. Paste the output and let us see.
DVD (and the WD also) players include DECODERS so that they can OUTPUT the SOUND via ANALOG in addition to doing Passthrough to HDMI, or Stereo for that matter. In order to even do 2 channel out the “Left and Right” ports, it has to decode it.
Also, it probably has the capability to output LPCM to the TOSLINK or DIGITAL device, just like my Blu-Ray can do.
On my BD, I don’t even enable the decoder; I just tell it to do Passthrough.
I guess I just don’t get it.
The TV says that is handles DTS. if you are suggesting that it can only handle it via USB and that it can process DTS via DNLA, what good is it if there are only 2 speakers on the TV and teh digital audio out cannot send a 5.1 signal.
is there a quick way to switch between digial and stereo modes so I don’t have to scroll through the goofy menus?
The 5.1 Audio from files played by the internal player WILL be sent out the Digital Audio output.
The TV says that it handles DTS.
So you decoded the HDMI EDID data using that program? And it says it supports DTS? Please, post the output of the program here.
Where does it say it will send a 5.1 signal via optical if it is using the internal program? I just see that it will send DTV as 5.1 everything else as 2.0.
Correction, the TV box and the packaging/marketing says it can do DTS and the samsung techs said it would decode. I am very interested in that program, but I will have to do it when I have some time.
Where does it say it will send a 5.1 signal via optical if it is using the internal program?
I’m not talking about the manual; I’m referring to the many folks on AVSForum that said it all worked fine when streaming USB media that was DD5.1 or DTS.
the TV box and the packaging/marketing says it can do DTS and the samsung techs said it would decode
Now are discussion has gone in circles several times and we’re not getting anywhere.
Report back after you’ve had a change to collect the EDID data.
you’re right. that program gave me this:
Monitor Asset Manager Report, generated 12/18/2010 (6.1.7600)
Copyright (c) 1995-2011, EnTech Taiwan.
Monitor #1 [Real-time 0x0021]
Model name… SAMSUNG
Manufacturer… Samsung
Plug and Play ID… SAM0667
Serial number… 1
Manufacture date… 2009, ISO week 47
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz
I guess the TV’s going back.
thanks for your help.
RBICO: I’m glad we got to the bottom of it, and I can understand your disappointment. I agree that Samsungs advertising is VERY misleading in that regard, particularly the marketing “Glossies.”
But let me also tell you that if DTS decoding BY the television for HDMI devices is a MUST for you, you’re going to have a VERY DIFFICULT time finding a match.
If you wish, you could tell us exactly what you’re trying to accomplish and see if anyone can give you more targeted advice.
THanks. I amn not taking the TV back - taking areally nice (visually) TV back becuase of this limitation is dumb.
All I want is if I am wathcing a movie from the WD and decide I want to listed to it in 5.1 - I don’t want to have to stop the movie, go back through the menu to the audio/ideo settings then have to scroll back to the movioe and resume. if I could just hit the options buttun - like I do to select subtitles, audio track, etc - then I would be happy.
I think I will just wait and upgrade my receiver in a few months, something with HDMI inputs.
If this is worth it to you, I have a suggestion:
You could REMUX your movies and ADD a 2-channel soundtrack that’s a downmix of the DTS.
Handbrake can do this for you.
There’s probably other faster alternatives that do AUDIO ONLY;
That way all you have to do is hit OPTIONS and pick which audio track you want.
I’m pretty sure that Popcorn MKV Audio Converter will downmix a DTS track to stereo AC3. Doesn’t touch the video stream so it’s pretty fast too. Outputs a new MKV that can include the original DTS track.
I appreciate the input, but that seems like 1000x more involved than switching between stero and digital on the wd tv live.
maybe I will ask WD to make it an option in the regular options menu,
rbico wrote:
I appreciate the input, but that seems like 1000x more involved than switching between stero and digital on the wd tv live.
maybe I will ask WD to make it an option in the regular options menu,
YES! switching Audio between Digital and Stereo should be in the Options menu. Start a thread in New Ideas and I’ll vote for it. I use Stereo when a track has 5.1 AAC. It helps to switch from the Options menu.
