WDT-39029: info firmware

Hi, I have a 5 years old WDT (not Live). It is a WDT-39029. Its firmware is 1.03.01 WDLXTV-0.5.8.1
In your opinion can I update the firmware with a new one?
Thanks

Out of curiosity:

  1. When will it ship a WDTV for 4K files?

  2. At this time which is the best WD Western Digital TV model to read video files?

  3. The new WD Western Digital TV model read better video files than old version? Is it more powerful than old 5 years model?

  1. Sounds like you have a WDTV HD Media Player Gen1   (WDT-39029 is Not the Model Number)

Valid Model Numbers Here:

http://wdtvhd.com/index.php?showtopic=16779

  1. 1.03.01 WDLXTV-0.5.8.1  (which is Custom Firmware) is based on the last firmware ever released in 2009 (there is no other firmware for you to update to)

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=1001

Out of curiosity:

1) When will it ship a WDTV for 4K files?

Nobody knows if they are working on a “New Player”  let alone if it will support 4K

2) At this time which is the best WD Western Digital TV model to read video files?

I own a WDTV Media Player (2014) and a WDTV Live Hub … both read all supported media fine

Note:The WDTV Live Streaming is still awaiting a firmware update to fix MP4 bugs (the 2014 model recieved an update a couple of weeks ago that fixed the problem)

3) The new WD Western Digital TV model read better video files than old version? Is it more powerful than old 5 years model?

I still have my Gen1 (which can play 98% of files the 2014 Model can)… a few things that it can’t do (compared to the 2014 Model and Live Streaming)

a) Gen1 can’t decode DTS to Stereo (for your TV) … only supports “Pass Through” to DTS capable reciever

b) Gen1 has Limited “Reference Frame Support” for MKV’s (if the MKV exceeds the limit it was stutter and break up)

c) Gen1 doesent support DTS-MA

d) Gen1 AFAIK doesent support DVD Menus

e) Gen1 cant handle “Header Stripping” in MKV’s (you need to re-mux with no compression to fix)

Is it more powerful than old 5 years model?

Yes, but not by much

Here’s the tech-specs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD_TV

Supported Specs and Bitrates on the 2014 Media Player

supported.jpg

>Is it more powerful than old 5 years model?

Yes, but not by much

My problem with WD TV model 1 is:

I use a lot HanBrake and I make HD files with 4.1 Level. My WD TV finds it hard to read those files. 4.1 Level gets files with enough high bitrate. Do you know if a new model can read them? Thanks

4.1  should not have any issues playing.

In fact, i accidently encoded a file  Main@L4.2  (which isnt in the specs, but plays fine)

Like i said, 4.1 on the Old Gen 1 should be fine, it’s the “Reference Frames” you have to watch out for.

The WD-TV only has support upto 4 reframes

http://community.wd.com/t5/WD-TV-Live-Live-Plus/MKV-Pixilation/td-p/151766

http://wdtv.uservoice.com/forums/17442-general/suggestions/182991-support-for-more-reframes-on-mkv-files

I don’t know how many the newer models support … posssibly 12 ?  Haven’t had any issues for 3-4 years i’ve been using the newer models.

I’m sorry but I don’t take interest if an old WD TV reads or not reads 4.1 files because my WD TV doesn’t read those HD 4.1 Level files. Only I take interest if the new version of WD TV are more powerful and reads every file made with HD 4.1 Level.

well, i’ve given you all the info / experience i know …  4.1 Level on old and new WDTV’s is supported and works fine.

But as (i keep saying … Gen1 has Limited ReFrames)

From the Gen1 User Manual

5. mpeg-4.10 (H.264) (AVC) MP@L4.1 and HP@L4.1 up to 1920x1080p24, 1920x1080i30 or 1280x720p60 resolution.

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705014.pdf

it’s up to you now … if you want to purchase the newer model or not 

(and if you’re still “unsure”, then purchase one from a place which has a full refund policy in place)

can’t offer anymore advice

In the previous reply I did not understand fine about Limited ReFrames, now I understand fine. In your opinion which is better for you between WD TV player or WD Live Player (with hi-fi)? Which would you buy?

THANKS

In your opinion which is better for you between WD TV player or WD Live Player (with hi-fi)? Which would you buy?

neither … i still have my Gen 1 and don’t use it anymore (makes a nice paperweight though) … gave my WDTV Live Player (which doesent have Wi-Fi) to my parents.

I have a WDTV Live Hub …

and a WDTV Media Player (2014) which has inbuilt Wi-Fi  (but no Netflix)

The WDTV Live Streaming (SMP) has Wi-Fi  (and Netflix) … but is an older device (2011)

WDTV Live Streaming (SMP) [2011] and WDTV Media Player [2014] share the Same Hardware

P.S. check the WDTV Wiki again  … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD_TV     so you know / understand the different names and capabilities of each device.

THANKS a lot for your suggestions. You are an expert and I’m happy to write you.

A last question please, even if I already know it is hard to ask on this forum:

In your opinion is it better a WDTV Live Hub or yatow ENY EKB328 RK3288 Android mini PC Antutu
über 40.000, Lan 1000 Mbit, 4K?

This one: http://www.ebay.it/itm/yatow-ENY-EKB328-RK3288-Android-mini-PC-Antutu-uber-40-000-Lan-1000-Mbit-4K-/221591264659?pt=Netzanschluss&hash=item3397de5d93  (with Android)

I inform you I’m a purist of the quality of the video image.

THANKS

PS. http://www.ebay.it/itm/WD-TV-Lettore-Multimediale-Streaming-USB-Wi-Fi-Ethernet-Miracast-HDMI-/121497139285?pt=Unit%C3%A0_di_backup_Zip_Jaz_ed_Hard_Disk_esterni&hash=item1c49cb3855

or

http://www.amazon.it/Lettore-Multimediale-Streaming-Ethernet-Miracast/dp/B00KHL6CFE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420128396&sr=1-1&keywords=WD+TV+Live

Are they new 2014 models?

FoxAdriano wrote:

PS. http://www.ebay.it/itm/WD-TV-Lettore-Multimediale-Streaming-USB-Wi-Fi-Ethernet-Miracast-HDMI-/121497139285?pt=Unit%C3%A0_di_backup_Zip_Jaz_ed_Hard_Disk_esterni&hash=item1c49cb3855

or

http://www.amazon.it/Lettore-Multimediale-Streaming-Ethernet-Miracast/dp/B00KHL6CFE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420128396&sr=1-1&keywords=WD+TV+Live

Are they new 2014 models?

They are BOTH the 2014 Model … notice below the WDTV Label on the front ?  there is no “Live

eg, WDTV Media Player Released :2014

WDTV Live Streaming (SMP) Released :2011

Personally, i would’nt touch “Rockchip” again … i have a RK3188 device

Spent “MONTHS” finding Custom Firmware that would playback video smoothly …

Rockchip don’t provide info / source code for developers … closed shop

So, me , personally i would’nt touch RK3288

I’m still “Shopping Around” … but this looks nice :wink:

http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/NEO-X8-H-Plus-Android-TV.html

But, gonna keep researching and reading reviews (and visting XBMC forums) until i decide …

(i’m a long time XBMC user from the XBOX days … best Media Centre Available, only got WDTV because, XBOX/XBMC did’nt support HD 720/1080p when i needed it)

In the meantime … my WDTV Live Hub plays back everything i have,  perfectly …

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May be this one is the same of your link?

http://www.amazon.it/MINIX-Playback-Dual-Band-Quad-Core-AndroidTM/dp/B00KT29Q18/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1420206349&sr=8-13&keywords=Android+tv+box

There are many very good reviews.

Nope…

It’s not the “PLUS” Model …    PLUS Model has   H.265/HEVC HARDWARE DECODING  :smiley:

the NON - PLUS Model (in your link) only has H.265/HEVC SOFTWARE DECODING :cry:

consult   gOOgle   for more info

I hope I don’t annoy you :wink: but I need to understand well before purchasing a player. If I have understand fine Minix Neo X8-H Plus doesn’t support 1080p. Is it right?

I use Sony AX100 camera recording 25p in 4K. In your opinion could Minix Neo X8-H Plus disappoint me?

PS: I have just read Minix Neo X8-H Plus loses some frames when it reads x26a files. May be with high bitrate? Do you know this problem?

It supports 1080p

Look, i can’t 100% guarantee it will do everything you want.

I’m not sure myself … yes i’ve read “some” people having problems … but at the same time a lot of people don’t  (sound familiar :wink: )

Buying electronics is always a *risk* … always check the Sellers Return / Refund Policy

example:  I did puchase an Android Box about 6 Months ago from China … Reviews were Great

When i got … could’nt even play 1080p properly and it had a few bugs

So i lodged a complaint, took video, wrote a detailed description to the seller … Returned the Device and got my Money Back.

Anyways, it’s your decision what you want to purchase

Good Luck  and Goodbye

A last question please:

If I don’t surf on Internet but I like to see only my video on an external HD, how immediate is to enter into the Menu and to watch a video? Is it immediate or is it a little bit intricate? Thanks

JoeySmyth wrote:


 

I’m still “Shopping Around” … but this looks nice :wink:

 

http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/NEO-X8-H-Plus-Android-TV.html

 

But, gonna keep researching and reading reviews (and visting XBMC forums) until i decide …

(i’m a long time XBMC user from the XBOX days … best Media Centre Available, only got WDTV because, XBOX/XBMC did’nt support HD 720/1080p when i needed it)

 

In the meantime … my WDTV Live Hub plays back everything i have,  perfectly …

 

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No good if you want to use netflix. Current driod tv boxes still struggle with any netflix HD.

Even the new Tronsmart Draco AW80 8 core is **bleep** with netflix.

I’m Australia … never used “Netflix” and never want to, could’nt care less about it :smileyvery-happy:

I want a Kick-A ss   Media Player for my Local Content

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Hello all. I’ve been using the WDTV LIve for about 2 years now. Works great, but slowing down due to my media volume.  I purchased that MINIX x8-H hoping to solve the slowness issues, and have future support for 4K and just a better media experience with XBMC.  I hate this device!!!  I can’t say I was ever a fan of Andriod before hand so I’m sure that doesn’t help (I’m an Apple person).  However, I know my way around computers and can deal with pretty much anything.  The hardware is awesome on the MINIX device, and from what I was viewing online via YouTube and such.  I figured it would be perfect right out of the box.  I did however know before hand that Netflix wasn’t HD (why the heck not I don’t know but, whatever).  I am a user of Netflix and figured that would be fixed at some point.  It isn’t.  But as far as media play back goes. I am completely not happy with it.  Buffering A LOT, pain to setup (up till recently) with my logitech universal remote.  Still having basic issues with it like power on, and some menu controls not working very well.  Fixing this device requires some tweaking that is hit or miss.  No easy way to clear out all the media loaded in the device.  What I mean by that is, I’d like to start over and rescan all my media and remove the locations it already has in memory.  I can’t seem to do that at all. Most likey going to have to do a wipe an reload of the OS to start over and not screw up the process the second time.  

It’s a great looking and feature rich device.  I wish I could hack JUST XBMC on it (like some mini pc ideas I had before getting the MINIX).  And maybe it would be better without a full blown OS on it.  I don’t need many of the features Android provides (some are nice like AirPin Pro for Airplay mirroring of your iOS device WHEN it works), and of course you are running pretty much a PC on your TV which CAN be nice.  But, I have an XBOX one for gaming and a Mac Pro tower for both my Mac computing and Windows gaming needs.  I have given this device much attention and time and worked with it as best I could.  According to some users in the Minix forums.  I may have a defective unit.  Of which I don’t think I do, but it’s possible as it should just have worked out of the box.  Not much configuration should have to be done.  I’m either that lucky or it wasn’t meant to be for me.  I went back to the WDTV Live and have been happer for it.  Even great Netflix HD viewing!!  

I do hope that WD makes a better hardware version of this device.  There isn’t a bettery media player then this thing.  Just needs faster hardware (so it can process thru those ever growing media library’s and maybe 4K video support, H.265, and even those newer audio formats like ATMOS, and DTS:X when they are more mainstream.