New Release - WD TV Live Firmware Version 1.06.43 (1/17/13)

jspitz wrote:

I updated from 1.06.15 to 1.06.43 to find a major problem.  I use the WDTV Live at 1080i component through a Sony ES receiver, plugged into a ~12 year old Toshiba CRT TV.  Every single time the WDTV is turned off, the video reverts back to composite.  After I re-configure the WDTV to use component video, it performs perfectly fine … until it is powered off again.

I’m experiencing the same problem with the component setting reverting to composite after a power cycle.

Don’t change the subject title please.

barrygreybeard wrote:

I have based my experince on those MKV files I have had problems with so your experince may vary depending on the files you are trying to play.

Obviously. Still you’re the first one complaining about out of sync MKVs so I really doubt it’s a firmware bug.

richUK wrote:
Don’t change the subject title please.

Why?

Apologies if I violated some perception of decorum, but the forum posting instructions from 2009 ( http://community.wdc.com/t5/New-to-WD-Community/Posting-Messages/td-p/24)) clearly state that changing the subject is permissible.  I though twice before posting, but it appears that posts with altered titles still remain properly threaded.

"From the “Posting Messages” instructions: “When you reply to a post, the subject line will be filled in for you automatically. You can change it if you want.”

BarryGB

I believe turning off auto match framerate has the same effect as what I observed with a 60Hz TV, i.e.: jitter-strobe goes away, but 3-2 pulldown judder becomes apparent, depending on the TVs de-judder capabilities or lack thereof.    When enabled, the Live checks the list of permissible display modes that the TV passes back via HDMI, and selects the mode that matches the framerate that it parses from the playing video file.   You can see it do this when you start playing a 24Hz file; depending on the TV, a popdown box, upper right corner on Sharp Aquos sets, indicates the HDMI frame rate switch to 24Hz.  When the file play ends or is stopped, the popdown appears again as the Live shifts gears back to the default (60Hz) rate.  When you turn auto match framerate OFF, the Live maintains the HDMI link mode at default, and, for 24Hz files, performs 3-2 pulldown (Telecine) to match the 60Hz default.  I’ve not seen the problem occur on a 60Hz TV, whether the files were coded at constant framerate or not, nor do the troublesome variable framerate files exhibit problems when played on a PC application like VLC. 

If your toolchain yields constant framerate coded 24Hz files, you probably won’t see this problem.  I’m in the process of re-coding my library to constant frame rate as every one of the files I cranked with variable frame rate (the Handbrake default) exhibit the pause-phase characteristic I described.  Coded at constant framerate, they play perfectly with no sign of the jitter-strobe effect, and audio seems to remain locked in sync through to the end of the film.

RPH_16by9 wrote:
If your toolchain yields constant framerate coded 24Hz files, you probably won’t see this problem.

My TV switches to 24p and the files have a constant framerate but there’s still judder on some files, even from m2ts containers.

Techflaws wrote:


barrygreybeard wrote:

I have based my experince on those MKV files I have had problems with so your experince may vary depending on the files you are trying to play.


Obviously. Still you’re the first one complaining about out of sync MKVs so I really doubt it’s a firmware bug.

You misunderstood what I was saying. I had jitter problem with a few MKVs on my WDTV Live and SamsungTV. I put that down to WDTV not liking the way they were encoded and/or muxed as they played fine with other players. Trying to solve the problem I remuxing those files with Mkvmerge but that caused the a/v to go out of sync over time. I wasn’t saying that was a WDTV firmware problem and I wasn’t complaining either! I just stated an observation. The problem was also visible in VLC on my computer. I was saying that that was not a way to solve MY jitter problem!

RPH_16by9 wrote:

BarryGB

If your toolchain yields constant framerate coded 24Hz files, you probably won’t see this problem.

Thanks RPH-16by9, yes I can see my TV exhibits the mode when the resolution changes but in the files I have a problem with MediaInfo states it is in constant rate mode so its not that in my case. I still go back to the way its encoded/muxed as reencoding the 5.1 ac3 audio streams and remuxing does solve my problem for me. As for turning off auto match framerate I see no evidence of pulldown judder on my SamsungTV after doing so, so maybe as you say it’s dejuddering capabilities are good.

Barry

I always had 24fps jitter. It never worked for me. All firmwares. All movies at 24fps have hiccups. My wife doesnt notice, but I do. She doesnt notice too when 60 or 24 mode… What can I say, if I notice, I want it fixed. My PS3 doesnt have this problem, it supports 24fps just fine with BluRay movies, so its not the LCD.

The Option “media Library” On/Off dont work.

Before I had ver:1.04.17, I can see good the film in my Hard Disk with many dates of Computer (not film) beacuse I turn Off “media library” Option (You recomenced), But This option now dont work. WD TV Live want scan all Disk.

Just to rule out several variables that could also have been responsible for the jitter/strobe effect, I recoded the same VOB file movie using Handbrake with Variable Frame Rate checked.  Sure enough, the resultant file immediately displays the problem as soon as I start playing it and toggle the pause button a few times.   This at least discounts the possibility that Handbrake had some encoding or muxing problem last summer that got fixed in the latest release.  The only other variable here was the selected encode framerate; I had originally selected 24fps whereas my recent encodings were done with 23.976fps selected.  I don’t know what Handbrake does differently between the two settings but apparently that difference alone does not account for the jitter/strobe effect.

For those Live owners that experience the same jitter/strobe at 24Hz that I have experienced, all I can suggest is to try the same tool chain with the same settings.  I have no idea what Handbrake is doing to the file with CFR or VFR selected, much less what was done in a file created by a different tool chain.   Please keep in mind that the specific problem I am discussing on this forum is easily identified by noting that the picture can smooth out by toggling the pause button.  This is the critical difference between jitter/strobe and what is understood as judder, which I suspect some forum posters may be observing.  Judder doesn’t go away and come back as you toggle the pause button.

Problem is, all the demo files in the 24p-thread have constant framerate. I also never use Handbrake on my rips.

New firmware release still no support on replaygain. When do you think WD will release new firmware supporting replaygain. I hate always turning the volume of my receiver.

Hi all, I am hoping someone can help me fix whatever has gone wrong.

I was promted by the WDTV live to apply the firmware upgrade direct from the internet (ie: I did not use the USB method as described on the WD product update page).

After the firmware upgrade finished I could no longer access my network shares.  Nothing at all.  If I select media servers then I can access a network ext HD but the ext HDs attached to my PC cannot be found.

I just tried the USB method but after pressing home -> settings, there is NO firmware upgrade icon.  It’s just not there in under settings, so I can’t even try the upgrade again using the USB method.

I’m a bit pissed off because everything was working fine and now it isn’t.  The OP says “don’t rollback your firmware” or you could break you WDTV.  So at present it feels like “**bleep** if I do, **bleep** if I don’t”.

Any suggestions??

edit: I fixed it somehow.  I’m not sure what I did but I think I altered a “auto detect network settings” and following a reboot it prompted me to login manually to the network. Everything shared via the PC is now seen again :slight_smile:

I don’t Eject my HDD 1.5 Terabytes after upgrade this firmware. I use the Home button first, then the Eject button but the screen cyclin and not unplugged the HDD.

I use my WD TV Live HD every day and this issue is very disappointed for me, because I must disconnect the electric power to my WD TV LIVE HD and I worry with this damage my HDD.

With the firmware 1.06.15_V this issue is not present and I eject my HDD successful every time.

Help me please or I must have to downgrade the firmware to previous release with MKV issues not present in this new release.

Forgive my english, but I don’t write it well. I speak spanish so.

thanxs.

After firmware update " Digitally Imported" stations (TuneIn, MP3 stream) no longer works.

I was prompted to update firmware to 1.06.43 this morning.  The internet download then update went perfectly.  When the device rebooted after update, get WDTV Live logo for a few seconds, then blank screen, then dark screen.  Tried rebooting and resetting to no avail.  WD seem to have turned my excellent box into a brick.  I’ve tried booting a USB stick with the same software on it, from both USB ports, using different sticks, but although the access light flickers, I get the same screen behavior.  If I try web access just get an opportunity to change screen name but nothing useful.  Anybody seen this before?  Thanks.  It’s a WDTV HD Live Media Player.

If the firmware did in fact flash then having the same firmware on a usb stick will do just as you stated, just flash a couple of times when the stick is accessedon boot. You said you reset. How by the paperclip in the hole? How is the WD connected to your TV? HDMI or Composit? Did you do try to use the other output as a check? If HDMI try disconnect/reconnect of cable.

avocadopicker wrote:

I was prompted to update firmware to 1.06.43 this morning.  The internet download then update went perfectly.  When the device rebooted after update, get WDTV Live logo for a few seconds, then blank screen, then dark screen …

If you normally use HDMI, it might be worth checking what’s coming out on Composite or Component in case the WDTV has reset to using those.

Many thanks for those inputs.  I’ll check and report back.