HD audio on mkv files?

You may need a newer version of HandBrake.  

ISOs open fine with mine.

http://build.handbrake.fr

oh …i download from here

http://handbrake.fr/

Yes… you downloaded the last “official” release.

But there are newer Beta releases… many of them… they’re called "nightly build"s… they’re what Tony pointed you to.

I’m running one of the Betas and have no issues whatsoever with it.  (I’d seen Tony badger others into giving the nightlies a chance, enough times, that I finally broke down and downloaded one myself :wink:… before that I’d been using the “old” version too.)

Edit:  I’m just noticing that the latest WinGUI #247 is down at the minute… if you can’t wait for them to get it back up, I can get you Build #245, Revision 3567 that I downloaded a couple of days ago.

ok i’ll try one… lol to be clear using handbrake what is the best audio to choose?

The best audio is to simply select the passthru options.

It’s still up to you to decide which audio tracks you want to include.

For example, my Die Hard DVD has*

  • AC-3 2.0   Dolby Digital Stereo
  • AC-3 5.1   Dolby Digital Surround
  • DTS 5.1    DTS Surround
  • AC-3 2.0   Dolby Digital Stereo Commentary Track.

When I start Handbrake, in the “Audio” tab, the AC-3 2.0 track will come up, since it’s the first track.  I can keep that if I want, or if I don’t care about having a good 2.0 mixdown and will always be playing the file through a receiver, I can get rid of that track and just use one, or the other, or both of the Surround tracks.  I can thus “Add track” and add in any of the others, whether I keep the 2.0 track or not.

Under “Audio Codec”, next to the source name, if I just select “AC3 Passthru”, or “DTS Passthru” as the case may be, then the audio track (regardless of whether it’s 2.0 or 5.1) will be copied exactly… what’s in the .mkv will be identical to what was on the disc.

You can mix/transcode the audio to other formats if you really want to, but that’s generally not a good idea, since the WDTV will passthru the AC3 and the DTS to your receiver anyways… they’d be more for encoding files for playing on other devices.

So, as long as you select the correct Passthru option for whatever track(s) you want to include, you’re set.  And the .mkv container can easily handle several audio tracks, so it’s up to you whether you only pick one, or include them all, or any combination in-between.

* actually, those are just the English tracks… there’s also the French :wink:

dbmachine wrote:

ok just backed up terminator salvation and underworld 3 as ISO and they play back fine on the WD Live TV but when i open them in handbrake…click source…video file it wont let me open it. i get the message (no title found. your source may be copy protected, badly mastered or in a format which handbrake does not support) ? i have tried iso movies (regular dvds though) with dvdfab and dvd shrink and they work. help would be great thanks.

Let’s be clear – if you backed these up from blu-rays Handbrake will NOT open them correctly.  Handbrake doesn’t read blu-rays the way it reads DVDs.  For blu-rays you need to rip the main movie (normally the M2TS file, but about 3% of the time it’s a playlist.  To be absolutely sure use BDInfo to check).

For blu-rays in Handbrake you go to the FIle option and choose the Stream folder on the blu-ray disc or rip.  But an ISO won’t work that way – you’ll have to “mount” it so it can be read as a disc (Virtual CloneDrive will do this).

Just keep in mind, it is Beta.  As the Handbrake site says:

This page contains nightly builds of some HandBrake Components. These are not stable releases. They are unstable (and undocumented) code which will one day lead to a new stable release of HandBrake.
They are only recommended for experienced users and developers.

 

If you find broken things in these builds–which you will-- please wait a few days (and try a newer build) then post a thorough bug report in our bugs forum.

Don’t let that scare you off too badly… it worked perfectly for the last several encodes I did.  But not everything is working perfectly, or else it wouldn’t be a Beta.  In fact, I think it was just after this build that they tried adding AC-3 encoding (to encode to AC-3 if the source was something else like MP3 or WMA) and ended up breaking the AC-3 Passthru, which may be why #247 is temporarily down.

They’re back up with #251 now.

The latest HB nightlies do say it’ll open BD disc structures like it does DVDs, but I haven’t tried it yet…

lol how do you rip the main movie only?

TonyPh12345 wrote:
The latest HB nightlies do say it’ll open BD disc structures like it does DVDs, but I haven’t tried it yet…

It doesn’t work well, at least for me.  But YMMV (they are “in the process” of getting blu-ray to be as transparent as it is with DVDs but I’m guessing they are at least six months to a year away – part of of is there is only one developer who is working on it and not even close to full time).

Eventually I’m guessing we’ll see even subs supported the way they are in DVDs but the workaround in the meantime isn’t onerous.

dbmachine wrote:

lol how do you rip the main movie only?

Are you talking AnyDVD HD?  I don’t rip the main movie – I rip the whole blu-ray using “Rip Video DVD to hard disk” and that gives me the entire disc structure.  I then proceed as I outlined earlier in the thread.  But you can do the same thing if you ripped the blu-ray to an ISO by “mounting” it (this makes it appear to your system as a regular drive, with the right structures.  Virtual CloneDrive, freeware, will do this for you).

If you truly want to rip only the main movie (for space purposes, or to speed things up slightly) you can simply open it up with Explorer and copy the main M2TS file over to your hard drive (with AnyDVD HD running the disc structure will be transparent and available in this manner).  I have done this on very rare occasions (I had one of my blu-rays that refused to rip correctly but it was in one of the smaller files and not the main movie, so I just copied the main movie over.  I don’t really care about any extras – I can always dig out the blu-ray if I really want to watch them).

i’m just using dvdfab blu-ray ripper to a mkv file (much easier) …file is still 30GB so i’m hitting it with handbrake with audio AAC(faac), DTS passthru, AC3 passthru…its telling me 46Hrs left… dang thats long but oh well it got 300 down to about 9GB (didnt that long though):smiley:

that cant be a normal time can it?

Could be, depending on the movie and your machine specs.

Handbrake is one of the most CPU-intensive processes you can run, and the best bet is to have a fast muliti-threaded CPU.  On my i7 machine I rarely have a movie that takes more than 4 hours, but it still took about 12 hours to do “The African Queen” (these are all blu-ray encodes I’m talking about).  A slower machine could well take a day or two for the same movie.

well i have a intel 2 duo E8400 3.0Ghz processor, 4gb memory… oh well i came back to the pc 10hrs later and it was done so not sure of the exact time lol:wink:

You can look at the log to see when it finished (or just the date/time on the file as it gets stamped when finally modded).

Yeah, I hate to say it, but that’s a slow machine .  My own i7 is at least three or four times faster than that (and as I said earlier, Handbrake uses every single bit of CPU it can get its hands on).

The best thing about HB for me is the queue process – make it work while you’re asleep or at work!

lol all this is just gonna make me built that monster pc i been wanting to do :wink:

ok just converted kick **bleep** to mkv and when playing it on the wd live it plays about 5 seconds and then just stops and kicks back to the home page…i play again and if i fast foward for aprrox 10 seconds and play its fine…strange. i do need to upgrade the device but i dont have the correct usb cable it needs (device really should have come with it)

I assume you mean “Kick A S S” – I’ve done that blu-ray and it works fine.

Make sure you’re using the very latest Handbrake (it’s NOT .094 but one of the nightlies).  I don’t think offhand it has anything to do with your Live.

ok i did iron man 2 and kick a s s with a nightly build (3595)… lol i put them to convert at 7pm …handbarke was done with them at 11am, anyway iron man 2 plays great but kick a s s is still bad, i only plays about 10 seconds and kicks back to the home page so i tried just forwarding past it but that only worked for another 10 seconds and boom… i don’t really think its wd live tv player problem as the mkv dvdfab makes works great… i’ll know for sure when i upgrade the player (gotta pick up a male to male usb cable) …any suggestions would be great. oh and i 300…its works great as well.

is there any other program you guys recommend for getting the job done beside handbrake?