WD2001FASS normal Spin_Up_Time/startup behavior?

I recently bought my first 2TB Caviar Black drive (WD2001FASS-00U0B0).    In doing initial testing with the drive, I noticed that takes a lot longer to become ready than the 1TB FALS drives I’m familiar with…    After using the drive for several days and starting and stopping it a few times, I noticed the raw SMART Spin_Up_Time value reported by smartctl was quite high and the normalized value was significantly below 100:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH RAW_VALUE 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 045 042 021 14758

I believe this drive has one more platter than the 1TB FALS and perhaps might take a little longer to spin-up, but I am concerned that the normalized value is so low.  On all of my 1TB drives the normalized value is >230.

I called WDC customer support but was unable to elicit information related to my query, although the rep suggested that WDC does not recommend the Black drives for use with Linux.  (I’m sure he was conflating Linux with RAID, but it is still funny/sad that companies are still seemingly willing to play the Linux-FUD card for hardware that clearly doesn’t care about the OS.)

So, I have two questions for folks here who have experience with these 2TB FASS drives:

  1. Could you post your normalized and raw SMART values for spinup time on your drive?  Do you think the 45 / 14758 values are cause for alarm?

  2. Another difference I noticed with my 2TB is that on spinup it does not make a noticable “spin buzz” noise, but rather starts perfectly silent and can be heard very gradually coming up to speed.   This seems odd.   My understanding is that a very specific electrical sequence is required for the initial start of motors such as those found in HDDs, and it tends to produce this well-known and distinctive sound.  Do others who have run these drives in external enclosures/docks also fail to hear the buzz at the very beginning of startup?

I’m pretty sure I’m going to exchange this drive with the local retailer, but don’t want to return an otherwise perfectly okay drive if it turns out this is just normal behavior for the FASS drives.

Thanks…

yes you should be concerned

the normal thing is we hear the drive start spining

DavidSucesso wrote:

yes you should be concerned

 

 

the normal thing is we hear the drive start spining

Well, I exchanged the drive locally.    The second drive was the same; no spin-buzz noise.   After a few start/stops the raw spinup time stablized around 13166, 77 normalized.   Was the above comment speaking from direct experience with the FASS drives?

Doesn’t really matter, however, as the second drive failed my read/write qualification process with read errors and a subsequent failed extended self-test.   Got multiple errors on first read pass after the first full surface write cycle.  First drive was manufactured in March 2010, second drive July 2010, so it doesn’t appear to be a “bad batch” issue.    I’m returning for refund at this point.   I’ll be sticking with the FALS for a while longer, I guess…

Second drive smartctl output:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     WDC WD2001FASS-00W2B0
Firmware Version: 01.00101

[…]

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       42
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   077   077   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       13166
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       11
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       20
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       10
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       27
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   115   112   000    Old_age   Always       -       37
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000    Old_age   Offline      -       5
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age   Offline      -       6

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error

1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        19         -

2  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       10%        17         3888794303

3  Conveyance offline  Completed without error       00%         0         -

many WD drives but not the fass drives sorry