WD TV Live Hub Won't Play TrueHD Audio?

djpirra wrote:
What? Are you for real? Optical does not allow TrueHD? **bleep**! I will check that info tonight! Wicked, i really thought optical was better. Thanks

No problem, just Google “optical HD audio” and you’ll find a bunch of info. :slight_smile:

Just to add to my previous comment, the limiting factor associated with Optical cables is the S/PDIF specification that pretty much all consumer audio equipment adheres to. The physical cable could, in theory, send HD audio as it has a bandwidth up to 125Mbps. The S/PDIF spec limits bandwidth to only 1.5Mbps, crippling performance.

Great! Thank you for that information…

It seems that i have to switch my PS3 to an HDMI port on TV and use the Live Hub HDMI to connect to my Audio Decoder since it only have 2 HDMI Ports and one is for cable TV already ( I wish it had 3… ).

Once again, thank you.

Oh well… its seems not…

I have switched to HDMI cable and guess what? No DTTrueHD audio…

Are you sure you have DTTrueHD audio working with WD TV Live Hub???

My decoder is a Samsung BD-C6900 home 7.1 home teather that can support all formats for what i see in the specs.

What am i doing wrong?

Thanks

djpirra wrote:

…Are you sure you have DTTrueHD audio working with WD TV Live Hub???

 

Probably not because there is no such thing as  DTTrueHD.

ohhh sorry.

I meant DDTrueHD.

djpirra wrote:

Oh well… its seems not…

I have switched to HDMI cable and guess what? No DTTrueHD audio…

Are you sure you have DTTrueHD audio working with WD TV Live Hub???

 

My decoder is a Samsung BD-C6900 home 7.1 home teather that can support all formats for what i see in the specs.

 

What am i doing wrong?

 

Thanks

Yup, absolutely certain it’s working. If it were DD5.1 my amp would say DolbyDigital. It specifically shows that the input is DolbyTrueHD.

Do you have the model number for your home theatre amp? The model number you give is for a BD player.

I expect it should support TrueHD if it’s bundled with a BD player though!

Perhaps the problem lies with the files… What kind of files are you trying to play and how were they created?

-edit-

Tinwarble has a good point; can you paste the MediaInfo output for one of your non-working files?

I think that you may mean DTS HD.  There is Dolby Digital (DD), Dolby Digital Plus (DD+), DTS, Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD and DTS HD - MA.

You can’t passthrough DTS HD.

I dont remember the home theater model but the player/decoder is a bd-c6900 yes. The files are in mkv and none of them that have DDTrueHD seems to send audio. Only Dolby Digital or DTS MA…

djpirra wrote:
I dont remember the home theater model but the player/decoder is a bd-c6900 yes. The files are in mkv and none of them that have DDTrueHD seems to send audio. Only Dolby Digital or DTS MA…

You are confusing us. According to the BD-C6900 manual found here ( http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201010/20101006095226015/01945A-BD-C6900-XAA-ENG-BM-1006.pdf) there is no HDMI input port. Only an HDMI output port. Refer to page 18.

So what the BD-C6900 can/cannot do is irrelevant.

You need to explain what you are plugging the HDMI out from the WDTV into.

However if you you are trying to use the network playback features of the BD-C6900 then that is a totally different question. Samsung devices are well-known for not supporting many (actually most) media codecs/formats with network playback.

Sorry, I did not meant to cause any confusion.

I got the home theater model now, so I can say it is a “Samsung HTC-6930W/XEF - 7.1CH, 2 Tall-boy 1330W”.

It has 2 HDMI input ports, one HDMI output port, a optical audio input and so on…

I have the HDMI output directly to TV and the two HDMI inputs go for the Cable TV decoder and the TV Live Hub.

So I hope this clears the confusion now.

Is the BlueRay not a BD-C6900? Its just equal if it is not :confused: sorry.

Thank you

Any updates on this???

djpirra wrote:

Any updates on this???

    • *Did you unplug your optical cable? Is the Hub set to output via HDMI only? The only circumstances I can think of that would stop DDTrueHD working is if your amp still thinks it should be playing audio via optical or the files themselves are incorrectly encoded. As requested earlier in the thread, post the MediaInfo output for one of your non-working files and well take a look. Google MediaInfo, it’s a free app, very useful.

Ok,

Here is the MediaInfo file… and yes i have Passtrough HDMI only now.

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 5 frames
Muxing mode                      : Header stripping
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 2h 23mn
Nominal bit rate                 : 14.2 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.40:1
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.386
Writing library                  : x264 core 105 r1724 b02df7b
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.02 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=10 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=14200 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=48000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=none
Language                         : English

Audio #1
ID                               : 2
Format                           : DTS
Format/Info                      : Digital Theater Systems
Muxing mode                      : Header stripping
Codec ID                         : A_DTS
Duration                         : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 24 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 1.51 GiB (8%)
Language                         : English

Audio #2
ID                               : 4
Format                           : TrueHD
Codec ID                         : A_TRUEHD
Duration                         : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Maximum bit rate                 : 5 445 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossless
Language                         : English

Text
ID                               : 3
Format                           : VobSub
Muxing mode                      : zlib
Codec ID                         : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info                    : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language                         : English

How did you rip the Blu ray with lower quality audio and avoid the issue with TrueHD?

What do you mean?

Here it is another mediainfo for another file that does not reproduce sound:

General
Unique ID                        : 236834746272838303029819335511529327818 (0xB22CB685523F46899C61D56100458CCA)
Complete name                    : [\WDTVLiveHub\WDTVLiveHub\3D\XXXXX_3D.mkv](file://%5C%5CWDTVLiveHub%5CWDTVLiveHub%5C3D%5CHOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRAGON_3D.mkv)
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 9.03 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate                 : 13.2 Mbps
Movie name                       : XXXXX.3D.Bluray3DRip
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-11-17 00:54:09
Writing application              : DVDFab
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.8 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Writing library                  : x264 core
Color primaries                  : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : TrueHD
Codec ID                         : A_TRUEHD
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Maximum bit rate                 : 5 049 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 8 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossless
Language                         : English

Menu00:00:00.000                     : en:(01)00:00:00:00000:08:38.768                     : en:(02)00:08:38:76800:11:30.981                     : en:(03)00:11:30:98100:15:10.034                     : en:(04)00:15:10:03400:21:56.064                     : en:(05)00:21:56:06400:27:40.700                     : en:(06)00:27:40:70000:33:13.199                     : en:(07)00:33:13:19900:39:06.135                     : en:(08)00:39:06:13500:43:27.688                     : en:(09)00:43:27:68800:47:07.366                     : en:(10)00:47:07:36600:49:46.191                     : en:(11)00:49:46:19100:59:54.799                     : en:(12)00:59:54:79901:04:46.382                     : en:(13)01:04:46:38201:09:27.163                     : en:(14)01:09:27:16301:12:37.186                     : en:(15)01:12:37:18601:23:25.041                     : en:(16)01:23:25:04101:28:53.494                     : en:(17)01:28:53:49401:37:52.992                     : en:(18)01:37:52:992

Nothing jumps out as being wrong in either of those MediaInfo outputs.

In your first file, I thought perhaps that it had Header Compression enabled (which shouldn’t be an issue) but to try remuxing it anyway.

Yet the 2nd file doesn’t appear to have that and still doesn’t work.

I really don’t know what to suggest; all I can say is that the DDTrueHD files I have output as DDTrueHD and play fine on my Hub.

Not sure where you’re getting your files from (apologies if you encoded them yourself) but the most likely culprit is incorrect encoding.  Try remuxing with MKVmerge, just to rule that out.  

Something else to try is downloading the same files I’m testing with.

Go here and grab some DDTrueHD files from the Dolby section:

http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php

If those files don’t play either, there’s something wrong with your setup (either the Hub or your receiver).

If they do play, there’s something wrong with your other files.

Well i went to the site you said… and tried the following audio types:

Dolby Digital+ 7.1  → OK

Dolby Digital 5.1 → OK

Dolby TrueHD 7.1 → No Sound

DTS-HD MA 7.1 → OK

DTS-HD HR 7.1 → No Sound

So what now?