Ran WD Align on new HD> "All partitions are already properly aligned. No further actions required."

Canucked · August 5, 2012, 5:14am

Hello.

I bought a 1TB (WD10EZEX), and since I’m running Windows XP Home SP3 32 bit, I downloaded and installed Acronis WD Align per the info on this site.

When I run WD Align I get the message:

“All partitions are already properly aligned. No further actions required.”

I’ll get the above quote if I ran it through Windows or if I use a bootable disc using Media Builder, or if I have both drives connected or just the new drive. (The other is an old Seagate. Both are S-ATA).

Is there any way to confirm that the drive is ready to go? Can I ‘unalign’ the disc somehow and then run WD Align? Any sugggestions?

I was thinking that I could be getting the message because:

a) Someone bought the drive, ran WD Align, returned it for some reason, and then the store sold it as new. The store denies selling used as new.

b) There’s a problem with my PC, or the drive, that’s giving the program the wrong info.

Thanks.

Hammey · August 5, 2012, 2:35pm

Hi this is a problem I have run into also. Stores like staples will allow people to buy a hard drive take it home open it try to install it drop it on the floor or what ever noobs do to hard drives and when they cant get it to work staples allows them to return the drive, then there top class LOL A + cert techs then are supposed to check it out they recertify the drive and its put back on the shelf for the next unsuspecting person to buy. Any store that has this policy for example if you can return the drive you have to where you bought it saying your pc just does not support this drive well they are doing it also. From my experiance with there techs they cant install a 3 tb drive properly as I get people that have brought them to me to install after they had the A+ techs try to make them work.

Alucardx23 · August 5, 2012, 9:32pm

You can also use a jumper on pins 7/8 instead of using the align tool.

Canucked · August 7, 2012, 10:25pm

Bump in hopes that someone who understood my question can give me an answer.

Bought a NEW drive. Running Windows XP. There are no jumpers on the 7/8 pins. WD Align says it’s already aligned.

Is there any alternate way to confirm that the new drive I purchased is really aligned?

Hammey · August 8, 2012, 12:00am

Hi if Wd align says its aligned, it is but to make sure I have used this program also it will check the alignment. http://www.freewarefiles.com/Disk-Alignment-Test_program_71311.html hope that helps

Canucked · August 8, 2012, 2:50am

Thanks.

The Disk Alignment Test says my Caviar HD is NOT aligned, whereas WD Align says the HD is aligned.

Any ideas why WD Align will not work on my drive? I’m at a loss.

Hammey · August 8, 2012, 9:48pm

Hi well this is the thing different programs give different readings so when you get into doing this it really comes down to what one you want to believe. For myself WD made the drive and made a program specifically to align there drives and that is what I would go by. Most likely if you used a different program to align it the WD one would say its not aligned so what then. Sorry but that’s about all I can say on it, unless one of the other users has a idea

fzabkar · August 9, 2012, 10:43am

Could we see the partition table and boot sector with Microsoft’s Sector Inspector?
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/SecInspect.zip

Extract the above archive to the one folder and execute the SIrun.bat file. The procedure will generate a report file named SIout.txt.

We will be able to confirm beyond doubt whether your partition is aligned by examining the information in the partition table, specifically the starting sectors for each partition.

Canucked · August 10, 2012, 12:39am

The file is 21,188 characters, and I’m getting a message that I cannot exceed 20,000 characters per post, so I’ll split the post, but post everything.

I ran SIrun.bat twice. Once with a jumper on 7/8 and once without, and the ‘FC’ command says the files are the same (except for the time it was run), so I’ll just post 1 file.

Just a reminder that the one HD is a 80GB (with 2 ~40GB partitions) non WD, while the other is a 1TB WD Caviar Blue.

Once again, I appreciate all of the help.

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Canucked · August 10, 2012, 12:40am

Part 2

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fzabkar · August 10, 2012, 9:09am

PHYSICALDRIVE0 is an 80GB drive (9729 x 255 x 63 x 512 = 80 023 749 120).

PHYSICALDRIVE1 is your 1TB drive (121 601 x 255 x 63 x 512 = 1 000 202 273 280).

In both cases the starting sector (“RELATIVE”) for the first partition is 63. This is not a multiple of 8, so the partitions are not aligned.

That said, the function of jumper 7-8 is to add a +1 sector offset to each LBA. This means that when Win XP accesses LBA 63, the drive transparently accesses LBA 64 instead. So if the jumper is in place when the drive is partitioned, this means that the first partition will be automatically aligned. If one chooses this jumpering option, then this jumper must remain in place until the next time the drive is partitioned. In contrast to XP, Vista and Windows 7 start the partition at LBA 2048, which is divisible by 8. Therefore the jumper must not be installed for these OSes, otherwise LBA 2048 would be remapped to LBA 2049, thereby misaligning the partition.

In any case you appear to have found that your data are accessible irrespective of the state of this jumper. This suggests that the alignment jumper is non-functional in your model, which in turn confirms that your 1TB partition is misaligned.

BTW, just to be completely clear, you must power-cycle the drive when changing jumpers, ie you cannot do this while the drive is powered up. This is because the drive’s microcontroller examines the jumpers at power-on, but doesn’t look at them again until the next power cycle.

CrashOverdrive · September 5, 2012, 10:32am

Has this case been solved? Because maybe the WD10EZEX drives don’t need to be re-aligned for Win XP because maybe they don’t use Advanced Format (AF)?

I have NOT been able to confirm whether the wd10ezex drives does or does not use AF. Sent a message to WD support for a clarifcation, but waiting on reply.

fzabkar · September 5, 2012, 11:17pm

The “Z” in the model number denotes “Desktop Advanced Format/WD Caviar”.

WD Model Number Format for OEM and Distribution Channels:
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/other/2579-001028.pdf

CrashOverdrive · September 6, 2012, 12:30am

Unless I am reading it wrong, the info in that pdf is messed up because according to that PDF, the “X” in the WD10-EZEX model number denotes a SATA 2 drive (3.0Gb/s), but the wdc.com site says it is a SATA 3 (6.0 Gb/s) interface: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770

So one of these WD documents is lying, and thus we can’t go on the “Z” as being confirmation of AF if “X” is not confirmation of SATA 3.

So confirmation on this drive’s usage of AF is still unclear.

Canucked · September 16, 2012, 6:57am

No, it hasn’t been resolved.

To update, I posted the info at the bottom of page 1. Per the post at the top of page 2, the HD is not aligned.

I’ve tried WD align, and it says the drive is aligned. I’ve tried a jumper on 7/8, and rebooted, and I’ve used no jumper and rebooted, and the WD align software says it’s aligned when it’s not. I’ve also burned a CD and rebooted with all other HD’s disconnected and I get the same result.