External cloud access works no more

Vertech1,

I can confirm that, at least in the case of my specific router, the UPNP ports are reset after connection is lost. I could check this late in the evening yesterday: the ports set automatically by the EX2 where there no more in the router’s table.

So I proceeded as you suggested: REMOVED these ports from the network section in the configuration tab of the EX2 control panel and ADDED these manually using the router web interface.

After that, I rebooted the router to check that the newly, manually added ports were kept after such reset. They were still there! Then I rebooted the EX2.

The cloud is working now again. I’m beginning to believe that EVERY time that this service was disrupted in the past was due to this port removal phenomenon.

So now, and again, I only have to wait for a few days and see if the cloud service survives both time and other adversities, as conneciton failures. I’m convinced this time it will keep working. If, let’s say, next weekend everything is still OK, I’ll report the issue as closed.

By the way: I’d NEVER let my son to deal with the EX2 / router web interfaces, as you suggested!  (“Vade retro, Satan!!!”)  ;-)  He’s able to surf the web and an specialist to find funny videos in Youtube… that’s all. Any other attempt to understand computers is beyond his abilities or, what is whorse, imagination… So I’ll happily assume all the fuss related to manage my network to avoid a technologic tragedy at home.

Just to finish:

The 9-step instructions post you wrote in this thread seems to be the key to successfully activate the EX2 cloud service. However, the latest discoveries (routers resetting UPNP ports)  indicate (or seem to) that a slight revision of these could be published in this forum. For instance, it looks like it’s much safer to go for a configuration where the EX2 sets no UPNP ports at all and this responsibility is left to the router by means of a manual addition of the required ports.

I could do this by myself, but it’s my opinion that you deserve the merit for all this work. If you publish a revised version of such instructions, I’ll be really happy to give as much kudos as I can to this new post and I’ll mark it as the solution for the problem, so other people may find it directly instead of going through all the backs and forths explained since this now long story began.

Of course, this is only a suggestion!!!

At ary rate, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT. Your instructions helped me very much to understand how the setup worked, and, of course (assuming that the service is stable now) to solve this annoying problem!

Regards,

Pep.

Vertech1,

oh, my!

The cloud service broke again yesterday in the late afternoon after about 40 hours of uninterrupted service. Apparently, when I checked the router and the EX2, all the configuration made the last time (as for instance, port redirection) was still there (not as before, when the UPNP ports dissappeared).

Since I’ve read in several forums and webpages that problems could arise because of the use of a dynamic IP address for the EX2, I decided to undo the dynamic configuration of the EX2 and the router.

Your sugestion was to:

1 - Set up the EX2 to use a dynamic address

2 - Go to the router and, using the EX2 MAC address, create an permanent IP reservation for this device.

So I proceeded this way.

I’m not an expert, but people talk about the time the IP lease is valid. So I guessed that, somehow, the IP assigned by the router to the EX2 had expired, making the device unaccessible from outside my LAN.

So I reverted the EX2 set up to an static IP, and modified the permanent port redirection parameters set in the router to point to this new (fixed) IP address.

The cloud has been working now for about 12 hours. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best, that is, that, finally, this set up keeps the cloud service alive “forever”.

I’ll come back to report results.

Thank you,

Pep.

Oh no, oh no!

Last change (setting a fixed IP address) didn’t work neither. The cloud service broke in less than 24 hours.

If I use the EX2 control panel to turn off and then on the cloud service, it works again. So I’m, more or less, in the same situation I was at the beginning of all this discussion.

I’m really desperate and throwing the towel now. I think I’ll wait for a new firmware update before taking any more actions trying to solve this problem.

Thank you very much, Vertech1, for your continuous help. As I said in a previous post, your instructions made me understand how the set up worked and why,

Regards,

Pep.

Pep,

Sorry it isnt working better for you.  I too have had a couple of blips where I have to turn the Cloud access off and then back on.  I have to assume that it is a problem with the servers at WD because nothing has changed on my end when this occurs.  I’m not sure WD will ever make this a priority to correct.  In the meantime you could use the direct access method that I and many others use, FTP.  I only use the cloud access for those that just cant seem to grasp the concept of FTP access, and I am usually at the house to enable it for them.  For myself I use FTP and directly access the drive via the WAN IP address.  This way I dont have to rely on WD at all and it has never let me down yet.

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Vertech1,

as usually, you are always there!

Curiously, the cloud service is working perfectly since the last time I restarted it. Let’s see how long it lasts…

FTP? Yes, I’m used to this file transfer protocol. It’s been a long time since I first met FTP, so it is an old acquaintance of mine… The only problem is that I need a dynamic domain set up to be able to access my device from outside.

I’ve seen in the user guide that it is possible to configure dynamic domains. Do you have an static WAN IP address or are using dynamic ones?

The questions that come to my mind now are:

1 - is the EX2 ablot to connect to any free dynamic dns service or to a list of predefined ones only? (the user guide, page 122, says: “Server address: select a server address from the drop-down menu”, which points to a closed list of dyndns servers). If I had to set up a dyndns, I would clearly prefer a FREE one!!! So I would like to be able to choose the one I prefer, not among these offered by the EX2 if no free servers are in the list…

2 - is the EX2 taking the responsibility of refreshing the current dynamic WAN IP address so the dyndns service may acknoledge the changes? If not, I should install a piece of software in one of my computers to take care of this ip-refresh process…

At any rate, Vertech1, don’t spend too much time here, please. You’ve done quite a lot yet.

Thank you!

Pep.

Pep,

I have never used the Dynamic DNS service on the EX2 so I cant say what it can support.  The last time I used a Dynamic DNS service I configured it directly on my router so the whole network could participate.  I currently have a sticky IP and have no need for this functionailty.  (My IP will only change if my gateway is replaced.)

Good luck PEP, and lets hope WD continues to improved the firmware.

VT1

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Vertech1,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Pep.