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BUG: wrong subtitle position for blue ray files

If you play a blue ray file containing subtitles they are printed in the top left corner instead of the bottom middle of the screen.

Please fix this.

THANKS!!!

What’s a “Blue ray file?”   What format / container is it in?  What subtitle format is it?

… and which version of the firmware are you reporting the bug in?

Hi Tony, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

I want to use the wd tv live for playing a video in loop for a videoinstallation.

So I just copied the blue ray folder I created  to the hard drive and plaied it.

Since there are the subtitles when you choose them they are displayed top left.

If you can rip a blue ray disk and try to reproduce it from the folder on the hard drive you will understand

what I mean. I reproduced this issue with all the firmware version except the last one that I’ve not tried yet.

I’ll do it as soon as possible and get back to you if it isn’t yet fixed.

Davide

I thought you could move the subtitles with the “up” and “down” arrows on the Live and Live Plus (and that left and right altered thier sync).  Am I just confused?

Davide93 wrote:

Hi Tony, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

I want to use the wd tv live for playing a video in loop for a videoinstallation.

So I just copied the blue ray folder I created  to the hard drive and plaied it.

Since there are the subtitles when you choose them they are displayed top left.

If you can rip a blue ray disk and try to reproduce it from the folder on the hard drive you will understand

what I mean. I reproduced this issue with all the firmware version except the last one that I’ve not tried yet.

I’ll do it as soon as possible and get back to you if it isn’t yet fixed.

 

Davide

No, this is impossible – blu-ray subtitles in an M2TS container (which would be what would be there if you just ripped a blu-ray disc to your hard drive) can’t be played at all by the Live.

You must have used some sort of software to convert the file – what *exactly* did you use and what  *exactly* did you do with the software?  (Tell us all the steps you did in order to get the blu-ray to your drive, including your ripping software and any encoding software involved.  Also tell us what file you are selecting to play from the Live).

Wait a minute – I may have misspoke.

Maybe M2TS subs CAN be played – I’ve never tried it with the Live (since I always re-encode to an MKV container).  However, if that’s the case then the problem isn’t with the Live.  PGS subs (the M2TS file format) can’t be moved around – they are bitmapped subs that occupy a certain position on the screen without the possibility of adjustment.  (They also have other, undesirable characteristics like not necessarily converying the screen information about starting and stopping properly, which is why VLC has issues with them).  What you would need to do in that case is convert them to a more conventional subtitle format (actually, you’d be far better off just re-encoding the file to MKV using Handbrake, but that’s always my response to blu-ray material :>).

BDSup2Sub can do it, but first you’d need to rip out the PGS file using TsMuxer (and then put it back in with the same software).

it would work in this way but in this case it doesn’t!!!

Using up and down show me a part of the subtitle text moving but as soon as a new subtitle arrive it is displayed top left.

Davide

Believe me it is possible!!!

I’m using the blue ray folder I have on my  hard drive. I created it with Adobe Encore CS5 to burn a blue ray with my short film that was selected at the 60th berlin film festival this year!!!

Probably the reason for what I’m able to see the M2T file with WD live is that it was generated using the H264 compression method.

Davide

No Mike I don’t want to reencode the file. Probably the only chance is that I export the subtitle tracks as .srt

But in this case it would be tricky to have all the subtitles language at the same time.

Davide

If you don’t want to re-encode I’d defintely try at least once demuxing that PGS track or tracks, converting to Sub, and then remuxing.  I’m not sure that an M2TS container can contain that subtitle form, but it’s worth a try.

In any case, you might want to post this as a suggestion in the ideas lab (that the Live handle PGS subs the way it handles other subs).  I’d put the odds as VERY long this will ever be considered, but you never know.

Davide93 wrote:

Probably the only chance is that I export the subtitle tracks as .srt. But in this case it would be tricky to have all the subtitles language at the same time.

Why is that?

Why is that???

In  any interpretation of the question the answer is that the best would be that the subtitle would be choosen from the encoded file (as it happens right now) and that would be positioned automatically in the correct position as it happens

for all the rest of the subtitles.

Davide

Well, I didn’t quite get what you meant by “to have all the subtitles language at the same time.” If you mux them as SRT into the file you will have all subs and presumably all streams will be displayed at the exact same position. Also, I have ripped some Blurays for testing and both original PGS (actually SUPs) and converted idx/sub were played back fine with no shift of position so I wonder what happened to your files.

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