Video Metadata Shows Fine In Media Library All View But Not In Folder View

Hi,

Pretty much as the title says, all the metadata looks fine when in the Media Library/Filter/All view, but if I switch to Folders filter (still within the medial library) then the metadata disappears and I just get the default folder view that shows folder.jpg instead of .metathumb and the folder name.

I have also noticed that, while the various metadata fields have valid data, if i choose a filter on one of them then very few or no results are returned. Are there any known issues with these filters and if so are they scheduled to be fixed anytime soon? (i have seen a couple of threads from 2011 talking about folder views not displaying metadata so if this is the same thing then it is not encouraging that it is not fixed yet).

Cheers

Dan

[Mod: Moved post to the correct board]

Same with your other post, this post is in the wrong forum.   A moderator will probably move both of your threads.

That’s correct, folders don’t have metadata.   So if you’re putting each and every title in its own folder, then it’s not going to work the way you want in “Folder” filter mode.

I know of no other issues with other filters.  Which filters are you having problems with?

What are you using to create your Metadata?  Are you using a third-party tool, or the WD’s built-in scraper?

Hi Tony,

Yes I have multiple folders under the share, each one contains a movie (dvd rip as video_ts subfolder and vobs etc) and associated metadata.

Apologies if this is obvious (first time user!), but why does the metadata show up in Filter-All then disappear when I switch to Filter-Folder?

For creating the metadata, I actually didn’t bother with the 3rd party or inbuilt scrapers as I had all my metadata managed in mymovies already. mymovies doesn’t export to wdtv format so I wrote a simple script and xsl transform to run over one of the formats that mm does create to produce the wdtv files. An example of one in my test folder is below. I used the inbuilt scraper outputs and also some outputs from thumbgen to determine the correct format for wdtv (it didn’t seem to be too complex a schema luckily!).

So to take the genre as an example, the text shows up fine in the media library view which has the backdrops and the main metadata fields dislpayed (with the movies as a rolling strip at the base of the screen). All 7 of my test movies appear correctly in Filter-All view. If I switch to Filter-Genre, I get only 2 movies displayed - one is Adventure (correctly identified) and the other is Unknown (incorrectly identified, genre should be action). If I switch to Filter-Director, I get only one result (with director correctly identified).

Is there a specific codeset for genre? Also, all directors are held in the same element (the schema for all the xml files is the same as they are all generated with the same stylesheet) and seem to be working fine for the displaying of the value, just not for the filter.

Let me know if I can provide any more info or do any test tweaking - this behaviour is consistently repeatable luckily, not intermittent :slight_smile:

Cheers

Dan

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
  Disaster   14161   tt1190080   Dr. Adrian Helmsley, part of a worldwide geophysical team investigating the effect on the earth of radiation from unprecedented solar storms, learns that the earth's core is heating up. He warns U.S. President Thomas Wilson that the crust of the earth is becoming unstable and that without proper preparations for saving a fraction of the world's population, the entire race is doomed. Meanwhile, writer Jackson Curtis stumbles on the same information. While the world's leaders race to build "arks" to escape the impending cataclysm, Curtis struggles to find a way to save his family. Meanwhile, volcanic eruptions and earthquakes of unprecedented strength wreak havoc around the world.   2009-10-10   158   2012       John Cusack         Amanda Peet         Chiwetel Ejiofor         Danny Glover         Thandie Newton         Woody Harrelson         Liam James     Roland Emmerich   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFXGrTng0gQ   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/ywxrdkfbr8Dg3SBW2gi4kC59qOb.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/nlm2AwoEtLQvc53sQ2TErPgfym5.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/84pzsWaE0GM6fSbUoPCNdYHXhat.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/7WMgkDYXjfaveQJmUDcwEyvivTw.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/3lQsV67IdRs5F1rMWpPUWIRVANm.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/o9V0UYkuDMquMPDSFTqpfbxbXaJ.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/mfMGVeAPEF8egnrxs7YvES6wSbv.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/tPNzk353A6p0TUAb1vap4oCwH0Z.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/fFmyTdmfrrbmYrwltZFMS033lfe.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/64ooQAdTWvuvpXbjJv8yGvEzbij.jpg   http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/uH9Nk57d00xGoV1x6b12U8AJuKf.jpg

bump :slight_smile:

That’s fairly different than the XMLs produced by the WDTV’s own scraper…

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<details>
  <genre>Adventure</genre>
  <id>74</id>
  <imdb_id>tt0407304</imdb_id>
  <overview>The extraordinary battle for the future of humankind through the eyes of one American family fighting to survive it. Ray Ferrier is a divorced dockworker and less-than-perfect father. Soon after his ex-wife and her new husband drop of his teenage son Robbie and young daughter Rachel for a rare weekend visit, a strange and powerful lightning storm touches down.</overview>
  <year>2005-06-28</year>
  <runtime>116</runtime>
  <title>War of the Worlds</title>
  <cast>Tom Cruise / Dakota Fanning / Miranda Otto / Justin Chatwin / Tim Robbins</cast>
  <director>Steven Spielberg</director>
  <trailer>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrCnXLlhuls&hd=1</trailer>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/AssNSBTmiYXpseW659qNw3ngTC0.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/hozzH6DHXjqSVx9LyipyQiWc7MA.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/6RExMEFKDNDCzL6xfMuQGe84ZbL.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/A5kybztKyWUdAxVFJXq24yZocZg.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/ktReQj0RIt4OHzHgrDztCEDylTH.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/yg99jIBdBCQrCQDp8HYeWzsSwMb.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/vL8EqPQhfXZNP8Ql3DvaH9dhe8m.jpg</backdrop>
  <backdrop>http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/w1280/rxvbheNVdifWCwWev7E4z9K8wpW.jpg</backdrop>
</details>

Hi Tony,

Apologies if I am not seeing the obvious, but it is the same structure apart from cast/actor isn’t it? (I have noticed that multiple actor elements are processed by wdtv into a single slash-separated string and displayed on screen exactly the same as the cast element).

The genre element, which works fine to display, is at the same location in both xml structures so I don’t understand why it works in the display but not in the filter (I thought maybe it needed to be a specific codeset?)

Cheers

Dan

Yeah, I just don’t know what WD keys on to distinguish whether something is a Movie, a TV Show, or “Untagged.”

Try swapping in my XML for one of yours, clear the media library, and see if anything changes.

I doubt the codeset has anything to do with it, but you can change that, too…  (And the order of elements is arbitrary in XML, so that shouldn’t matter.)

Hi Tony,

Finally got some time to try this, busy week! I swapped in your xml and cleared the library, but it still didnt appear in the list when I applied the Filter-Genre option :frowning: (I could see your xml works fine as it all showed up correctly in the Filter-All view)

I think it probably isnt the codeset either as I realised another of my 7 test movies is also Adventure so now there are 3 tagged as that and still only one of them shows - and there is no difference in structure or content, at least where that element is concerned.

I am stumped …

Hi Tony,

I have realised there is one difference between the folder that works (i.e. shows up as the correct genre in Filter-Genre) and the ones that don’t work (i.e. shows up as Unknown) and that is the folder that works contains only one vob file for the movie while the others contain a VIDEO_TS folder which then contain the various ifo/vob/bup files.

Could this be a factor in the genre not working on the DVD type folders?

I am not sure it could be as all the xml files works fine otherwise, but I am clutching at straws here to figure out why one works and the others don’t!

I tried adding the xml to the VIDEO_TS folders as well as the movie folder and did a reset, but there was no change in the behaviour.

I don’t know the answer to that.    I don’t have a single VIDEO_TS tree anywhere in my media – all of my DVDs are ISO format.

Do you know if the wd support guys look at these forums at all?

I tried raising a support case with them last week but they haven’t responded to it at all :frowning:

It would be crazy if this doesn’t work as I have about 1000 dvd rips so filtering is quite necessary!

I have done a bit more testing in addition to troubleshooting with the WD support guy and I think I have found the specifics for creating this - and it seems to be a bug.

If I do a full reset then use the WD scraper to manually get the info for all my 7 test VIDEO_TS folders (I say manually as I have to help it find the movies by typing the names in because my folder names are not quite good enough for the auto scraping to work) then the Filter-Genre works fine.

If I then do another full reset and delete the wdtv folder that contains the wdtv db, but leave the movie xml and metathumb files in place (which reflects how I want to work as I am managing the metadata with my own scraper) then when I add the folders to the media library as before and let the wdtv find everything ok, the Filter-Genre does not work as before.

So this would imply that there is nothing wrong at all with my xml or the genre codeset as this behaviour occurs with the wdtv’s own xml.

It also implies that the Get Media Library Info process is at fault - when it is creating the db using pre-existing xml and metathumb files, it must be skipping or failing on the part that queries the genre and puts the values in the db for folders using the VIDEO_TS structure. My assumption here is that the Filter-Genre functionality runs off data in the db rather than the xml values.

I will continue with the support guy and hopefully we will get a resolution!