Agree, an (old-style) Live or Live Plus new for sale today is aimed at the “unsuspecting” buyer in most cases. If you are in market for a new unit, the Live Streaming (aka SMP) or Live Hub are your total choices.
There ARE cases where people actually want an older unit. Maybe they find a “cherry” used one for much less. I did, when I wanted to add another Live Plus for a second TV. Even if an SMP is under $100 at Best Buy or mail order, a nice Live Plus with all parts included can be found for about half. Since I knew what I was looking for (including ALL the parts,) I found a nice Plus at eBay a few months back for lots less than a new SMP. but ya gotta know why you are buying a Live Plus today.
