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Steggl
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Registered: ‎01-17-2012

Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

What really, really pi**es me off is that WD refuses to address our problems and to commit to dates when they want to resolve them. How hard can it be and how much trust could they gain by doing so?
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Bill_S
Posts: 6,030
Registered: ‎11-24-2009

Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!


Steggl wrote:
What really, really pi**es me off is that WD refuses to address our problems and to commit to dates when they want to resolve them. How hard can it be and how much trust could they gain by doing so?


First of all, if you read the above posts, you'd see that a WD Staff member does actually address some of these specific problems.   But more than anything, it's not that we refuse to address something.  It's that until we know that there is a real issue, we don't always know what to address. 

 

Secondly, we can't commit to dates, because there is too much involved in the process of addressing these issues.  We have to be able to reproduce them, then identify the cause, then find a solution, then test to make sure that it works and doesn't break something else.  As I've said in other posts, that can take a month, or more. 

 

Furthermore, we are constantly running into the issue of users, who are posting the problems, not responding back to us when we ask for more information.  You can't really expect us to fix an issue if we can't get enough information to even reproduce the problem.  

 

It's kind of a Catch 22 situation.  We can't expect people to keep a product if it's not working for them, but we may need more information as to why they're even having the problem.  And if they return the device right away, then we're pretty much done with getting anywhere with that issue.  I can count at least a dozen times this has happened over the last month where users either returned the product, or simply never responded back to us, when we needed more information. 

 

However, we are working on ways around this even as I speak.   So, as we go along, there should be improvements in the process.  


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kutyamutya
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Registered: ‎04-02-2012
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

The thing is that I bought this device to watch things I have on a USB HDD. As it does not allows me to do that - keeps freezing for HD content after a minute, or 10 seconds or ten minutes - I read and wrote to this forum, then started to play with FW downgrades...then I installed back my older (not WD) mediaplayer. Packed neatly back the WD player and put it under the bed. I might try to sell it, or I might keep it (maybe you will come up with a working software once).

But I need a working device so I will go with the old one for now, and will not keep testing yours for a month or months for sure.

I had two media player devices before I bought this one. Both cases I could give feedbacks on the forums and wait for upgrades to solve problems. The difference is that their basic functionality was there, they were upgrading to solve minor bugs or make enhancements.

Maybe I'm just a unique customer with such a strange setup (a TV, a 2TB USB3 external HDD and the player) that noone else has. Maybe not.

 

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Ripcord83
Posts: 248
Registered: ‎11-20-2011
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!


kutyamutya wrote:

The thing is that I bought this device to watch things I have on a USB HDD. As it does not allows me to do that - keeps freezing for HD content after a minute, or 10 seconds or ten minutes - I read and wrote to this forum, then started to play with FW downgrades...then I installed back my older (not WD) mediaplayer. Packed neatly back the WD player and put it under the bed. I might try to sell it, or I might keep it (maybe you will come up with a working software once).

But I need a working device so I will go with the old one for now, and will not keep testing yours for a month or months for sure.

I had two media player devices before I bought this one. Both cases I could give feedbacks on the forums and wait for upgrades to solve problems. The difference is that their basic functionality was there, they were upgrading to solve minor bugs or make enhancements.

Maybe I'm just a unique customer with such a strange setup (a TV, a 2TB USB3 external HDD and the player) that noone else has. Maybe not.

 


what were the file types of the video's you are trying to play?

 

it could be a bad encode. it happens some times.



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richUK
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Registered: ‎12-09-2009
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!


Ripcord83 wrote:

kutyamutya wrote:

The thing is that I bought this device to watch things I have on a USB HDD. As it does not allows me to do that - keeps freezing for HD content after a minute, or 10 seconds or ten minutes - I read and wrote to this forum, then started to play with FW downgrades...then I installed back my older (not WD) mediaplayer. Packed neatly back the WD player and put it under the bed. I might try to sell it, or I might keep it (maybe you will come up with a working software once).

But I need a working device so I will go with the old one for now, and will not keep testing yours for a month or months for sure.

I had two media player devices before I bought this one. Both cases I could give feedbacks on the forums and wait for upgrades to solve problems. The difference is that their basic functionality was there, they were upgrading to solve minor bugs or make enhancements.

Maybe I'm just a unique customer with such a strange setup (a TV, a 2TB USB3 external HDD and the player) that noone else has. Maybe not.

 


what were the file types of the video's you are trying to play?

 

it could be a bad encode. it happens some times.




It appears to be something to do with his 2TB USB3 drive. He has another 320GB USB2  which works OK.

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kutyamutya
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Registered: ‎04-02-2012
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

They were all MKV files (720p) and all FLV files (720p as well). And no, it was not based on encoding. The device just hates my HDD (2TB USB3). Tried the same files from my 320 GB USB2 HDD and they work perfectly from there.

 

The last time I watched a film that freeze at around 7 minutes then rebooted, played more 5 minutes and freeze and I rebooted. Then I copied the file using the WD player from the 2TB HDD to the 320 GB one and watched the film from there without any problem.

 

Although, I would not deny that it could still be encode problems. Maybe the device hates when you have USB3 with specific encoded files? Anything can happen.

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oldman777
Posts: 183
Registered: ‎03-05-2012
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

I have the exact same problem with the WD SMP. HDD WD 750GB USB 3.0 (WDBPCK7500ABK-EESN). Connecting the drive to the rear USB port  picture freezes and after a while WD TV Live tells me something like that the USB drive is disconnected.
This happens  when watching large files 1080p .
I tried firmware - 1.04.12  , 1.05.18 ,1.07.15 with resetting to factory defaults.No results.
WD SMP (WD WDBGXT0000NBK-EESN, P/N:WDBGXT0000NBK-01)
The issue is described here.:

http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-TV-Live-Streaming-Issue/SMP-refuses-to-play-1080p-files-from-the-HDD-...

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kutyamutya
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎04-02-2012
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

The difference is that I experience it in the front USB as well. Although the rear one almost allways dies ater seconds, while the front one can keep working sometimes for 5 or 10 minutes long.

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Ripcord83
Posts: 248
Registered: ‎11-20-2011
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!


kutyamutya wrote:

The difference is that I experience it in the front USB as well. Although the rear one almost allways dies ater seconds, while the front one can keep working sometimes for 5 or 10 minutes long.



it could be a bad connection in the port. are you able to try and exchange it for another one?

only reason I ask is I have a combo of using a 1TB USB3 drive & a 3TB UBS2 drive on the rear ports and have no issues, I also tested them on my second SMP and all is well.

WD also sends out replacement units (although referbed) so that is also an option.

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oldman777
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Registered: ‎03-05-2012
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Re: I'm Returning my WD TV Live Thanks To All The Bugs in Recent Firmware!!!

Ripcord83 wrote:

only reason I ask is I have a combo of using a 1TB USB3 drive & a 3TB UBS2 drive on the rear ports and have no issues, I also tested them on my second SMP and all is well.

 

What is your model number SMP? There is a 01 at the end of the numbers? I have P/N:WDBGXT0000NBK-01

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