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ravelord
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Registered: ‎09-27-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps

"Although not the entire time, sometimes it sleeps just fine. Other times (mostly during the night) it wakes up every 60 seconds after sleep."

Exactly the same behaviour I have noticing. Maybe I should try the pinhole reset though I have 1.5 TB on the NAS and no place to backup :-)

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panamcake
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Registered: ‎12-19-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps


ravelord wrote:
"Although not the entire time, sometimes it sleeps just fine. Other times (mostly during the night) it wakes up every 60 seconds after sleep."

Exactly the same behaviour I have noticing. Maybe I should try the pinhole reset though I have 1.5 TB on the NAS and no place to backup :-)


Afaik, the data won't be erased. But I can't guarantee anything.

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Plubar
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Registered: ‎10-18-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps

After much testing, I I found that my Directv DVR boxes are not allowing the My Book Live to sleep.  Any ideas on how to get around this issue besides unplugging the network cable or turning off media sharing on the DVR?

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cman548
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Registered: ‎01-13-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps

so you verified that the MBL went to sleep if it had media sharing enabled, but the DVR was no connected? 

 

Some people are finding that even if you have no dnla destinations hooked up, just having media sharing enabled on the MBL will not let it sleep.

 

Myron is also finding that if you never log off your computer, the quickview status checks may fill up the drive log cache and start writing to disk, preventing sleeping.

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Plubar
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Registered: ‎10-18-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps

Yes, if the DVR is disconnected and media sharing is enabled on the MBL it goes to sleep. As soon as I plug in the DVR the MBL turns green and flashes every 5-10 seconds. I have all kinds of other devices hooked up to it, but the DVR is the only one that wakes it up.
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beanbagt
Posts: 19
Registered: ‎12-30-2011
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Re: My book live never sleeps

I also have this problem.  Sometimes sleeps for a long time, sometimes wakes up 60 seconds after sleeping.  How can we tell what wakes up the device?

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anotherpaul
Posts: 136
Registered: ‎01-03-2012
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Re: My book live never sleeps

My MBL never sleeps; it has the 2.10 firmware.

 

Actually, the MBL never stops doing something as the green led is blinking all the time; only time it does is when I unplugged it from the router or just unplugged the power adapter.  Interesting that others report that the led is out or never go to blue for standby (sleep?).

 

Waiting for the WD to send RMA replacement as cannot access Dashboard; infact, I cannot even access WD QuickView now as the icon just shows the "about" selection.

 

Have stopped ripping my CDs to the drive; at least I can still listen to music.

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andy_bradders
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Registered: ‎01-19-2012
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Re: My book live never sleeps

Hi Tony

 

Did this fix ever make it into production?

 

Thanks

 

Andy

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Mozsafa
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Registered: ‎03-05-2012
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Re: My book live never sleeps

Hi Tony (and all friends),

As I use this box only as storage (NFS&Samba) I killed the twonky and the other niceties off, but the standby mode still doesn't kick in. Taking a look at the system, I found this:

/usr/bin/monitorio.sh is monitoring the I/O by checking /proc/diskstats every minute

! By calling a lot of tools from /bin and /usr/bin ! As soon as the content of these executables is dropped from the fs cache, the disks will spin up to fetch them again, so the sleep time will be the fs cache retention time rounded up to the next minute.

IMHO the best way would be simpler to let the drives handle the standby themselves: hdparm -S 120 /dev/sd[ab]

Sure, for the flashy led show you would need some program that, once loaded, can perform file operations on the /proc/... entries without touching anything, but since you have /usr/bin/php, I don't think that's a problem.

Or, shadow the whole /bin, /lib, /usr/bin, /usr/lib to ramdisk. Or, put the whole branch to the initrd image and run it from there.

The same is true for /etc/rc.logrotate: shell script, invokes external binaries.

For some reason, syslogd also wakes up the drives, regardless of the '-m 0'.

The smbd and nmbd also keep some file open, and although they don't write them, a 'stat' is still considered as IO: /usr/var/locks.hd/*.tdb, /DataVolume/jewab/log.smbd, /usr/private/secrets.tdb, /usr/var/log/log.nmbd.

I haven't checked the /proto/SxM_webui/* files, but they seem to behave nicely, not waking up the disks.

As a conclusion: your firmware, as it is now, heavily relies on a writeable storage, and therefore the standby mode requires heavy refactoring. If you allow me some advice (on the base of several flash-based embedded systems):

- Run from the initrd. If you don't intend to write the binaries, why switching to an r/w storage?

- Unless doing config changes, keep everything r/o. When changing a config: remount rw, change, remount ro.

- If something needs transient state data (like logs), send them to ramdisk that you rotate frequently.

- Don't enable the standby mode that you didn't test, the frequent spinning up/down heats up the disks more than the constant operation.

 

Regards,

Mozsafa

 

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AllanW
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Registered: ‎03-27-2012
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Re: My book live never sleeps

Hello,

I stubbled on this thread and wanted to give my experiences. I don't have the exact problem of my MBL not going into sleep mode, but my experiences may help solve some of those problems. I have 3 MBL's all sitting together so I can see their status.

I noticed that one of my units always was being "Accessed"...the other 2 were in sleep mode and would wake up as I would expect them to when being accessed.

I called WD support about this and pretty much got a "Party Line" response even when I told them that if I disconneted the network cable the drive's light  continued to blink and I could hear the drive being constantly being accessed.

During this process which lasted several months, I got multiple Over Heating Alerts from this drive. My other 2 drives, sitting next to this one, never overheated.

Finally, I got WD to replace the unit....the new one did the same exact thing once I got it set up and put data on itnd updated the Firmware to MyBookLive 02.10.12-129 : Core F/W.

I contacted WD again to try and determine what was happening, again without success. Then I found this thread and tried some of the things mentioned. I was able to find what the problem was.

Here is what I found:

    I have about 120K of pictures backed up on this drive (none of the other drives have pictures on  them).
    Remote Access was Turned ON
    TWONKY was turned ON
    Firmware: MyBookLive 02.10.12-129 : Core F/W

    Turned OFF Remote Access ..Drive Still being accessed. I rebooted the drive...Still Being Accessed

    Turned OFF TWONKY - Device NO Longer being Accessed (after about 5 minutes) and went into Sleep Mode
    after about 10 minutes

    Turned ON Remote Access - Device began being accessed again.

    Turned OFF Remote Access - Device NO Longer being Accessed (after about 5 minutes) and went into Sleep
    Mode after  about 10 minutes

    Turned ON TWONKY  (Remote Access was Turned OFF ) - Device began being accessed again.

    Turned OFF TWONKY - Device NO Longer being Accessed (after about 5 minutes) and went into Sleep Mode
    after about 10 minutes

So, in my case, either TWONKY or Remote Access being on, coupled with a large amount of pictures on the MBL, caused my drive to be constantly accessed and naturally not go into Sleep Mode. I had to be patient, since there is definitely some delay between turning off TWONKY and Remote Access and the drive activity stopping and going into Sleep Mode.

I have not loaded any music or Videos on any of the other drives yet, so I don't know if the MBL would behave the same way with those, or not..

In any event, I now have a lot of pictures on a drive that I can't get to (easily) with other DLNA devices...which is why I bought the MBL in the first place.

A quick note to the gentleman from WD (WDTony) who has been helping out on this thread.....I hope WD realizes this is a huge problem....If they sell 3TB drives to be hooked to the network, you would have to expect large amounts of media (pictures included/especially) to reside on them. The constant accessing of the drive to transcode pictures, causing very slow access and the overheating during that time, has to be addressed.

One thing I didn't mention was that the activity on this drive went for about 4 weeks after I loaded the pictures (at that time I didn't realize that it was the pictures causing the problem). Shortly after the Activity light stopped blinking, I put about 1000 more pictures on the drive........Accessing of the drive went on for another 3-4 weeks. This tells me that everytime pictures are added, everything is re-transcoded...or at least that's the way it appears.

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